Mohar Nabuwat

mohar nabuwat bhai mein apka challenge accept karta hoon,magar meri b aik shart hai k jahan se bhi koi line uthain wo pura page,us se pehla r us k bad wala page b di jiyege.
aryo ne b ap he ki tarha ilzam lagae na k kisi ne ye kaha k hume khuda ne kaha, jo mene likha hai us me khuda ki baat ki jarahi hai. is 100 sal k arsa me aap me se koi esa naik shaks paida nahin hua jise khuda ne ye kaha ho k ahmadi jhute hain….
aur jo aapne baito ki baaat ki wo aik saal me honi wali baitain hain.
mein bhi aapse baat karna zurur pasand karunga,lekin islami asoolon k tehat.
islam kisi k bare mein zuban darazi ki ijazat nahin deta.hum ne ne hadhrat masih maud ko sacha samajh k mana hai.is liye koshish zurur kijiyega k koi baat ikhlaq se giri hui na ho.r agar ap galiyan dengay mujhe us se koi aitraz nahin kyon k log tou hamare aaqa huzur(s.a.w) ko b galiyan dete hain.hum tou huzur(s.a.w) ki muhabat me ap ki galiyan b bardasht kar sakte hain.aur unhi ki muhabat me aaj tak taklifain uthate arahe hain,aur aaj un sub pabandiyo ka samna kar rahe jo hamare aaqa(s.a.w) per lagai gayi thi,is liye hum khushi se isko bardasht karte hain k aap ne tou hume un ki ummat hona ka haqq ada karne ki toufeeq di.
r bhai agar hum jhoot bolte hain tou hum pe pabandi kyon lagate ho,tum tou khule aam tabligh karte ho,phir b hum he se khofzada ho,aisa kyon hai?
huzur(s.a.w) ne tou kisi ko nahin roka tha k wo apne mazhab ka parchar kare.ya phir tabligh kare.bal k her mazhab ko security di.
r rahi taraqi ki baat tou shayad apko ye bhi maloom nah k jis ratio se hum taraqi kar rahe hain,esaae us se kahin duur hain.
aur un ka muqabla bhi hum he karte aye hain aur karte rahain gay.
zia bhai zara apni information ko durast kar lain,k shari nabi aane pe pabandi hai,na k umati.suarh nissa,aayat 70 mein un logo ko jo log allah aur us k rasool (s.a.w) ki atta’at karain gay,nabi,sidiq,shuhadaa r saleheen hone ki khuskhabri di hai.hum quran k her hukam ko maante hain aur kisi hukum korad nahi karte.
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Tahir Jattsaid:
zia bhai zara apni information ko durast kar lain,k shari nabi aane pe pabandi hai,na k umati.suarh nissa,aayat 70 mein un logo ko jo log allah aur us k rasool (s.a.w) ki atta’at karain gay,nabi,sidiq,shuhadaa r saleheen hone ki khuskhabri di hai.hum quran k her hukam ko maante hain aur kisi hukum korad nahi karte.
واہ طاہر بھائی، آپ نے مجھ پہ تنقید کرنے سے پہلے یہ تو سوچ لیا ہوتا کہ میں کس آیت کا حوالہ دے رہا ہوں
یہ آیت جو آپ مجھے سنا رہے ہیں یہ آپ ہی پر چوٹ ہے ، شکر ہے مجھے آیت ڈھونڈنی نہیں پڑی، یہ تو مجھے کافی پہلے سے علم ہے کہ احمدیًوں نے آیات کو تاویلات کے ساتھ اپنے جماعتیوں کو بتایا ہے ،اور غلط پفہوم بتایا ہے لیکن آج یقین ہو گیا۔
جی اب آتے ہیں اسکے اصل مفہوم کی طرف ۔۔۔
لفظ “” مع “” کا مطلب ساتھ کے ہوتے ہیں
بات کو گھمانے کی کوشش مت کریں ،
اسکا آیت کا مفہوم ہے ۔ “” کہ جن لوگوں نے اللہ اور اُسکے رسول کی اطاعت کی وہ انبیاء صالحین ، شہداء ، صدُیقین کے “””””””” ساتھ (مع) “”””””””””””ہوں گے۔
تشریح: دُنیا میں آپ اللہ اور اُسکے رسول ( صلًی اللہ و علیہ وسًلم) کی اطاعت و فرمانبرداری کریں گے تو قیامت کے روز
آپ انبیاء صالحین ، شہداء ، صدُیقین کے “””””””” ساتھ (مع) “”””””””””””ہوں گے۔جس دن سب کو اپنی اپنی پڑی ہو گی اُس روز رسول ( صلًی اللہ و علیہ وسًلم) کی اطاعت کرنے والوں کو انبیاء صالحین ، شہداء ، صدُیقین کا ساتھ حاصل ہو گا، کیا یہ سعادت نہیں
اُسی دن وہ لوگ جہنًم میں پھینکے جائیں گے جنہوں نے رسول ( صلًی اللہ و علیہ وسًلم) کی اطاعت کی بجائے اُن کی شان میں گستاخیاں کی ہوں گی اور اُنکی نبًوت پہ ڈاکہ ڈالنے کی کوشش کی ہو گی ۔
great sharing…………..
Assalam-o-Alaikum
sachasaid:
yeh thread be bunyaad hai.
qadiani sache dil se muhammad mustafa par iman late hain. unhi ka kalmah tayyab parte hai aur aap ki sunnat o hadees ke perokaaar hain. aur mirza ghulam ahmed sahib ko bilkul woh hesiat nahin dete jo jo yahan beyan ki gai hai.
sab log motawajoh hon:
qadiani mirza ghulam ahmed sahib ko mehdi o maood o masih maood mante hain jiska muhammad (s.a.w) ne waadah kia tha keh aye ga. agar logon ko isbare main ikhtelaf hai to karlain. aap 14 wi sadi ke mujaddad bhi hain.
mojadad ko jo ilhaam hoty thy aur jo khawab hoty thy…..so funny un ko parh kar koi bhi sensible insaan us par yaqeen nahi kar sakta
mirza ghulam ahmed sahib ka darjah muhammad mustafa (s.a.w) se buland nahin nahin nahin. phir daikh lain. yeh aik sufaid jhoot hai jo khatme nabuwwat wale phela rahe hain. muhammad mustafa (s.a.w) sab nabion se afzal o akaram hain. mirza ghulam ahmed sahib unhi ki umaat main se aik nabi hain nah keh aik nae shari rasool.
Hazrat Mouhammed (S.A.W) nay farmaya’mery baad 30 jhoty ayeian gy aur wo kahian gy keh hum nabi hian..lekin mery baad koi nabi nahi
aap ki koi nai taleem nahin balkeh islam hi ki mazeed tashreeh ki hai apnain.
Allah Talah nay Hazrat Mouhammed (S.A.W) ko akhri nabi bana kar behja aur Quran ko aik mokamal kitab……nabowat ka silsla khatam kar dia….aur Quran ki mazeed tashri ky liy Hadith,Qiyaas,Ijtihaad ki rah khuli rakhi…..Islam ko kesi mirza malhoon ki zarorat nahi hai
nabi se murad aisa shakhs hota hai ji se khuda kasrat se kalam karta hai aur muhammad (s-a-w) ki haqeeqi atbah se ham nabion tak darjah pa sakte hain.
Astghfirullah….
quran se sabit hai. pas agar maulwion ko nah samajh ae to ham kia kar sakte hain???
ab bakwasiyaat ko kon samjhy
hadeesemubarkah hai: “”uz zmane ke ulama aasman ke neechain bad tareen makhlooq hongain….”” yeh wohi ulama hain jin ki aap log khushi khushi ankhen band karke atba karte hain. wallaho alamu. kis zamany ky…Hadith ka hawala mukamal dety to hamari bhi maloomaat main azafa ho jata
aur ya Ulma kamiz kam murtad to nahi hain na….
zia bhai aap k shukriya kehna ka jazakumullah.lekin shayad apko ye malum nahi is ummat ko behtarin ummat kaha gaya hai.pehli ummaton ko tou yeh inaam mile ko wo shaheed ka rutba paen,saleh ka rutba payen.lekin ye behtarin ummat sirf un k sath ho.na ye inam yafta.aur kya aap ye kehna chahte hain k aaj tak is behtarin ummat mein koi saleh, shaheed, ya sidiq paida nah hua, ye konsi khush naseebi r kon si fazeelat,r jis lafz k aap ne sath hone ka matlab bataya hai wo her jaga isi meaning k sath hai ya is mana jo mene kiye wo bhi hote hain.
zara ghor kijiye ga,agr na mile tou me bata dunga dont worry puchh lena.
sara khansaid:
kis zamany ky…Hadith ka hawala mukamal dety to hamari bhi maloomaat main azafa ho jata
aur ya Ulma kamiz kam murtad to nahi hain na….
jesa k aaj kal k aap k mutabiq swnsible insan ko jo yaqeen nahin araha,ye un ka kusur nahin bal k jo bhi nabi aya us ko tamaskhur ka nishana banaya gaya, r allah k khulle khulle hukamo k bawajud us ki mukhalfat ki. r aik aur ka intazar karte rahe jab ko wo jis ka intazr kar rahe the wo tou aa chuka tha ab kese aaye.r kuch bad naseeb log wo bhi tou the jinho ne huzur pak(s.aw)ko b ye he kaha k dekho k ye rasool tou majnoon hogya hai r apne hosh-o-hawas kho betha hai,(naooz bilah min zaaliq).
r agar kisi nabi ki zururat nahin hai tou hazrat eesa ka kyo intazar karte ho,deen tou mukamil hogya.
Tahir Jattsaid:
zia bhai aap k shukriya kehna ka jazakumullah.lekin shayad apko ye malum nahi is ummat ko behtarin ummat kaha gaya hai.pehli ummaton ko tou yeh inaam mile ko wo shaheed ka rutba paen,saleh ka rutba payen.lekin ye behtarin ummat sirf un k sath ho.na ye inam yafta.aur kya aap ye kehna chahte hain k aaj tak is behtarin ummat mein koi saleh, shaheed, ya sidiq paida nah hua, ye konsi khush naseebi r kon si fazeelat,r jis lafz k aap ne sath hone ka matlab bataya hai wo her jaga isi meaning k sath hai ya is mana jo mene kiye wo bhi hote hain.
zara ghor kijiye ga,agr na mile tou me bata dunga dont worry puchh lena. bhaaee sawal gandum , or jawaab chana waali baat na karo..
word “” Ma-aa “” ka matlab “”saath”” hota hai… ye aap nay poori baat ghumma di.. seedhi baat hai ye aayat bataa k aap daleel denay main nakaam hot rahay hain , i m sorry
jaa k kisi se bhi poochain arabic main word “”MA-AA”” ka matlab saath hi hota hai
mera matlab ye naheen k hummaari ummat main koi saaleh , etc nahi , saheeh baat hai is ummat ko behtarin ummat kaha geyaa hai , magar is ka ye matlab nahi k is umat main se rasool ya nabi ,Mohammad(SAw) k baad aa saktay hain, jis aayat ka aap nay hawaala diya hai us ka matlab hai k “” Allah ki or us k rasool(SAW) ki ataaa at karnay waalay un Logon ki rafaaqat main un k saath hon gay jin pe inaam ho chuka jaisay sidiqeen , shuhadaa , aanbiyaa etc…
or ye sharai ya ummati nabi waali defination aap kahan se le aaye? quraan nay baat khatam kar di , kisi bhi qisam ka rasool ya nabi according to Quraan “” Khaatam-ul-Nabiyyeen “” Mohammad(SAW) k bad naheen aaye ga jis pe eemaan laaya jaaye ga..
Quraan nay “” khatam”” k Lafz istamaal kiye hain , yani mohar lagaa di k ab koi essa shakhs jis pe nabbuwwat ya risaalat k tehet eemaan laana ho wo naheen aaye ga rasool(saw) k baad .. plz is ki maqoool daleel dain.. BASSSSS
is aayat k bara mein aap kya kehna chahain gay?hope so k apko “”ma’aa”” k meaning samajh agaye hongay
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hahahhhah
Meray Kheyaal Main Aap Ko Kuch samjhaana Hi Naheen Chaahiye….
Jab Momin Banain Gay Tab Hi Mominon Ki Rafaaqat Milay Gi Na? Yani Jannat Main Ikathay Hon Gay. Allah Nay Aik Asloob Se Qura’an Main Baat Ki Hai Or wo Asloob Samjhain plz..
Us Main Bhi Rifaaqat Ka Zikar Hai K , Yehi Achi Rifaaqat Hai ,end main daikhain un Logon ki Rifaaqat ki khush-khabri hai , plz aayat k end main daikhain….Aap Ab Doosri Aayat Laaye Phir Teesri Laayen Gay Asal Baat Phir Aap Nay GOL kar Di Na… Jab Aap Nay Ye Kahaa K Lafz Moqa Ki Munaasibat Se Mukhtalif Manon Main Tarjama Hota Hai To Aap Ko Ye Baataa Dun K Jo Aayat Aap Nay Pehlay Baataaee Us Main Aisay Hi Tarjuma Ho Ga …
Doosri Baat K aik pushto Main Likhi kisi tehreer Ko aik pathaan hi saheeh ssamajh Sakay ga us ki depth main jaa k na k aik punjaabi ya sindhi ya baloch or na koi arabic.. to Arabic zubaan main naazil honay waalay Quraan ko aik arabic scholer hi depth main jaa k samajh sakay ga na k koi punjabi ya mughal etc aap samajh gaye hon gay …
to hum Is waqt Alhamdulillah wahaan hain jahaan Quraan Nazil huwa tha , to yahan apnay ghar k paas Allah Q Apnay Quraan Ki Ghalat Tashreeh Or Ghalat Tashreeh Karnay Waalon ko haakmiyat main rakhay ga Q k Allah nay khud is ki Hifaazat ka wada Kiya Hai…..
Asal Baat Yeh thi k Rasool(SAW) khaatam-unnabiyyeen Hain Quraan k mutaabiq , is aayat k jawaab main aap keya kahain gay.
aap ne bare pyare andaz me bayan kiya hai k koi panjabi ya mughal weisa nahin samajh sakta jesa koi arabi samajh sakta hai,
is bare me sirf itna kehna chahoon ga k sirf arab se belong karna lazim nahin,abu jehal ko bhi arabi aati thi,aur wo bhi arabi samajhta tha,lekin jin ki ankhoon pe parde hoon wo kabi bhi nahin dekh pate…
Allah talah apne naik bandoon ko behar haal matalib samjhata hai,aur aj tak sakjhata aya hai,aaj tak jin jin logon ne quran ko samjha wo sub arabi nah the,
aap ne kaha k hum wahan us maqam k nazdeek hain,yeh beharhaal aap ki khushkismati hai.aur kyon k ye wo zameen hai jis pe hamare pyare aaqa huzur (s.a.w) paida hue aur muqadas hayat guzari isi liye hamare dil se wahan abad logon k liye dua nikalti hai k khuda us zameen pe rehne waloon ko maseeh-o-mehdi ko maanane ki toufiq ataa kare.ameen.
hijrat k sath wapis ana ka waqt koi lazim nahin k jald ho,haan yeh zurur hota hai allah hijrat me barkat rakhta hai,aur jo dushman ye soch k khush horahe hote hain k hum ne hijrat pe majboor kar diya,un ki khushi jald he khatam hojati hai jab khuda talah pehle se barh k taraqi k saman paida karta hai r dushmano k liye siwae hasad k kuch nahin bachta.aur jab allah talah ki taraf se ishare hoon wo zurur wapis aate hain,aur bari shan se wapis aate hain.
wo waqt bhi jald he ayega.ameen.
ap ne kaha momin banain gay tou he momino ki rafaqat nasib ho gi na..
mein apki ye bat zurur manta hoon., isi tarha agar nabi banain gay tou he nabi ki rafaqat nasib hogi na….khair ye apki baat ka jawab tha
Allah aur huzur(s.a.w) atta””at k karne k bawajud is duniya mein kya koi inaam nahin mileingay.tou phir sura fateha me kon se inaaamo ki duaeen karte rehte hain?
pehli ummato k liye un ki zindagi mein bhi aur hamare liye sirf aakhrat….
1 jumla ap ne kaha 1 mein kehta hoon k ye tou wo he baat hui
“”na khuda he mila na wisaal-e-sanam””
huzur (s.a.w) se pehli ki nabiyon ki umaton ko shaheed aur saleh ka rutba diya gaya
magar hamare aaqa (s.a.w) jin ki umaat behtarin ummat hai.aur jis pak nabi(s.a.w) k liye duniya banae gayi us ki agar kamil atta””at ki jaye tou ye bhi na mile..
her giz nahin bal k agar jo hamare aaq(s.a.w) ki atta’t kre khuda is aayat me une siddiq aur nabi k rutba ki bhi khushkhabri deraha hai.
choon k deen mukamal hochuka aur shariyat ki imarat aakhri eent lagne se mukamal hogye is liye sharie nabi nahin aasakta…
sirf mirza sahib ko na manne k liye kyon islam ki azmat ko kam karne ki koshish karte hain.khudara islam pe itna zulm na karain..
aur apni zaat per bhi………………
aur hazrat miraz sahib k aane se pehle ullama hazraat is baat ko maante the k sharie nabi aasakta hai..
lekin ye bhi haqeeqt hai k jab bhi koi nabi aaya logon ne use jhutlaya he hai….
zia bahi saaf dil ho k sochiye ga..aur jo mene likha ise aik bhai ka paigham samajh k ghor se parhiye ga…jazakumullah”

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